The current state of gaming 2019.

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The current state of gaming 2019.

Post by Mabrick » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:00 am

This is a thread about the current state of gaming as of the year 2019. As the year 2020 comes closing in, i would like to reflect the thoughts on what happened during this year. You can collaborate on this thread, put your own thoughts.

My thoughts on this year's gaming.

2019 has been a rocky year for gaming. It appears that smaller indie developers either newbies or former company developers have risen to gaming industry while the bigger corporate companies are slowly sinking away. Gaming have been same as last year but slightly frequent. Alot games have been shipped to half-baked quality. Lack of creativity is a problem in the industry especially with Triple A publishers. It's that some studios are trying to make what their creation wants to be but the company will meddle with the product and will get the development off track. Even worse is their monetary practises are gaining attention from politicians and nation governments.

There is just so much new controversies that i'll only select a few that is interesting. So Bethesda a well known game company has fallen fast with their failed game Fallout 76 in which they make really questionable decisions on their game like a broken membership or just making overpriced DLC. Then there's Konami butchering their Franchises by joining in on the monetising trend but ramp it up by making Slot machines from their original series. and last one is that Blizzard and Ch-(Ok that's an issue that has to do more about politics.), i guess that's all i got moving on.

But not of all 2019 was bad news. There were some gems we got like Smash ultimate, Three houses, Outerworlds, Borderlands 3, RE2, Sekiro, Code vein and Death stranding. These were good because at least those studios aren't as restricted as how Triple A companies want their games to be. Also some games being announced to be in 2020 and future, Cyberpunk, Last of us 2, Doom eternal, Jedi Fallen order. They look pretty great so far for the hype.

At this point companies are just being blatant at their practises. They don't care about the backlash anymore. They never moved on with their mistakes. 2020 is gonna be a new low. Companies have been trying to force these trends like Battle royale, forced multiplayer as way to sell it in. I also feel like that this year would mark the decline of Sports games given how much scrutiny they have gotten for being grindy and pay to win.

Then lastly, consoles. So Google is introducing a cloud gaming service called Stadia. But there has been doubts about this working but I don't follow those that much since im not that audience. Sony now acknowledges the presence of the PS5. Not much is known yet about it but something tells me that this may be the last time consoles will be good.

Anyways to end it all off, 2019 is a year of mixed bags, we got our share of good masterpieces but the bad news seems to inflate slightly which concerns me about the future of gaming. 2020 is gonna be a new era of uncertainty.

I'm sorry if this was a little too big to be a brief statement. I don't wanna steal the show so go ahead and make your own thoughts about the state of gaming 2019!
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Post by LeonardMan » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:02 am

It's simple.

Normal people outnumber us nerds by a HUGE amount. Games do not make money from being beautiful masterpieces, but from the sheer amount of people who buy them. Thus, the objective for the companies is NOT to make a good game, but to make a game that appeals to the animal instincts of normal people, and what normal people desire the most out of anything else in the world is to interact with another real person and to fit in within a tribe by doing absolutely everything they do, hence the forced multiplayers and the battle royales.

Normal people are just shaved bipedal apes, otherwise completely unchanged since over 13 million years ago. Plus, just like every other animal, they never question anything, and just accept whatever shit is thrown at them.

That's why, at the end of the day, the opinions of intelligent, civilized people like yourself don't matter, because normal people are that much more profitable just from the sheer number of them that exists, and their ignorance means they will fork out their money without questioning at the first thing that catches their attention.
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Post by Royalguard » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:31 am

It seems like a lot of games these days are being built with the sole intention to have progression be as slow and tedious as possible. The make people play the game for as long a period of time as they can milk out of it, to expose players to micro-transaction and lootbox systems as much as possible. It comes a the point where caving to micro-transactions or lootboxes is the only way to make the game progress at any half decent pace and make it even remotely fun to play.

This is further magnified by games becoming more and more social. When other players are seen doing things like buying/using things obtained in micro-transactions/lootboxes, this may come to "normalize" the concept to other players as they want to fit in with others in the gaming social group, and may make them more likely to spend on said systems as well.

Developers who make these types of games obviously have no intentions of making good or fun games, or even "art" for that matter, and are purely out to persuade exploitable people to give them money, be it kids, gambling addicts, rich people that don't value their money, and people with mental disabilities. Absolutely disgusting, governmental intervention can't come fast enough.
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Post by D-Man » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:02 pm

I don't look forward to the antics of the gaming industry too closely, one because of the incredibly tranparent greed exhibited by some companies, and two because I don't have the expendable income to buy games on a regular basis. Reason two is why I've played many F2P games, and they are just as Royalguard described them (jokes on them, I don't have pocket change to spend on useless cosmetics).

Some people actively boycott companies/studios who have failed in their eyes; not buying their products and persuading others to do the same. But, I don't think that that's enough to stop them. Even if 100,000 or 1,000,000 people close their wallets, there's just going to be another 1,000,000 people who continue to empty them, for personal reasons beyond anyone's understanding. Those companies are just too powerful. Is there any idea on what to do? Is there any hope?

But other than that, I find it hard to believe that it's only been close to a year since SSBU came out. It felt like ages.
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...the opinions of intelligent, civilized people like yourself don't matter...
You flatter me. But I'm not as smart as you make me out to be. I'm just as "normal" as the people you resent.
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Re: The current state of gaming 2019.

Post by LeonardMan » Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:12 pm

D-Man wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:02 pm
You flatter me. But I'm not as smart as you make me out to be. I'm just as "normal" as the people you resent.
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D-Man wrote:
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for personal reasons beyond anyone's understanding. Those companies are just too powerful.
The reasons CAN be understood, but you first have to remove the "humans are special creatures above animals" glasses and look at people as the primates they ultimately are. You have to understand that normal people DO NOT HAVE the ability to reason and think (like you do) and that they live entirely by the ancient survival instincts that kept them alive over 13 million years ago (way back before our species was even human!).

Examples of said instincts include:

-Look for another member of your species, no matter what! Being alone is being defenseless. Even of the other ape is unpleasant, it's safer than being on your own.

-Be the same as everyone else in the tribe, and do everything they do. FIT IN! Humans evolved in a habitat that was not only full of hungry predators, but also full of rival primate tribes, and thus competition. By looking and acting exactly the same as everyone else in your tribe, it is effectively a "password" of sorts that one can tell friend from foe at a quick glance. This is the reason why we have trends. Also the reason why we are racist, and why we are vulnerable to the Uncanny Valley effect.

-Speaking of quick, be quick to do EVERYTHING! The habitat in which the human species evolved was so dangerous that one could die at any second, so if you want to stay ahead from your predators and competitors, always take the fastest route! Do everything as fast as possible! If you want to survive in the jungle, you must learn to speedrun real life! This is the reason why normal humans don't read.

-It's true that by banding together we are more powerful than alone, but that also means that the group needs a hierarchy. All men are created equal? BULLSHIT! Some apes command, and some apes obey! How do they determine that? Simple, they bully each other into submission! Yes, bullying is part of our biology too.

Looking at these instincts, the stupid shit that humans do everyday becomes MUCH easier to understand! And the companies have studied these instincts for centuries! Is it any wonder that they already know how to get those apes to empty their wallets on their trashy games?

And before you ask me why you do not engage in those savage instincts yourself, one word: EDUCATION! It can supress instinct.
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Re: The current state of gaming 2019.

Post by D-Man » Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:20 pm

LeonardMan wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:12 pm
Are you Mabrick? :| Are you using two accounts?

...Whatever.
Why would you even assume that? If Mabrick wanted to respond to you, he'd likely use his account run by himself.
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Post by LeonardMan » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:41 pm

D-Man wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:20 pm
LeonardMan wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:12 pm
Are you Mabrick? :| Are you using two accounts?

...Whatever.
Why would you even assume that? If Mabrick wanted to respond to you, he'd likely use his account run by himself.
Because you responded to something I said to Mabrick! (though, to be fair, it most likely applies to you as well...)
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Post by Mabrick » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:15 am

Ok stop this before this becomes trainwreck. Enough, Leonardman's statement is i guess is a bit off topic, thread is mainly about the thoughts on gaming this year. TBH, i cannot really properly respond to that post...
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Post by LeonardMan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:54 pm

Mabrick wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:15 am
Leonardman's statement is i guess is a bit off topic
It SEEMS off-topic... until you realize that companies' marketing practices are a product of them studying the instincts of normal people!
D-Man wrote:
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Even if 100,000 or 1,000,000 people close their wallets, there's just going to be another 1,000,000 people who continue to empty them
I also take this chance because I forgot to correct your numbers. It's more like "Even if 1,000,000 of us close our wallets, 100,000,000 of normal people will continue to empty them". That's why gaming is in its current state! Because normal people VASTLY outnumber us! Combine that with the fact that normal people never question anything, and you start to see why they are so much more profitable than us. Of course the AAA companies are going to gear their products towards them!
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Post by D-Man » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:38 pm

The year's almost over, and people haven't found an overpriced GOTY to latch on to. What do you guys think it's going to be this time?
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Post by LeonardMan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:17 pm

D-Man wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:38 pm
The year's almost over, and people haven't found an overpriced GOTY to latch on to. What do you guys think it's going to be this time?
They haven't yet!? :shock:
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Post by D-Man » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:23 pm

LeonardMan wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:17 pm
D-Man wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:38 pm
The year's almost over, and people haven't found an overpriced GOTY to latch on to. What do you guys think it's going to be this time?
They haven't yet!? :shock:
The Game Awards are held on December 12. Also, I don't keep track of most upcoming releases, since like I previously established, I can't buy games all the time.
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Post by Brazencoronet17 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:10 pm

My extremely negative predictions for 2020:

-The PS5 will be a minimal upgrade from the PS4 Pro, and is being released too early.

Specs have not gone far enough to really make a true upgrade, so I would say the next generation sony and Microsoft consoles will be COMPLETELY POINTLESS and just an excuse to make more money.I

-Nintendo will mess up too, and start adding in-app purchases to many of their games.

The switch was already a big downgrade in my eyes, with being a console that uses the 3DS and Wii U as crutches, and with few original games for the sytem. Though he's I know the Wii U ports are a fine idea, it fees like they're being released as whole new games. As for the 3DS ports? Well save yourself about 325 dollars and buy a 3DS.

But with Kirby clash whatsit on the switch (it was a minigame in a 3DS Kirby game) with in app purchases and hardly any original content, I fear the worst.

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Post by LeonardMan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:27 pm

Brazencoronet17 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:10 pm
-The PS5 will be a minimal upgrade from the PS4 Pro, and is being released too early.

Specs have not gone far enough to really make a true upgrade, so I would say the next generation sony and Microsoft consoles will be COMPLETELY POINTLESS and just an excuse to make more money.I
You have a good point. You can't push videogame graphics to be much more realistic than they already are today, so what need do consoles have nowadays to be any more powerful?

In fact, do we need ANY consoles AT ALL in this age? When a PC and a cell phone can play pretty much everything?
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Post by Brazencoronet17 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:48 pm

LeonardMan wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:27 pm
Brazencoronet17 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:10 pm
-The PS5 will be a minimal upgrade from the PS4 Pro, and is being released too early.

Specs have not gone far enough to really make a true upgrade, so I would say the next generation sony and Microsoft consoles will be COMPLETELY POINTLESS and just an excuse to make more money.I
You have a good point. You can't push videogame graphics to be much more realistic than they already are today, so what need do consoles have nowadays to be any more powerful?

In fact, do we need ANY consoles AT ALL in this age? When a PC and a cell phone can play pretty much everything?
Dang, you're right. consoles are basically obsolete.

One thing I know for sure, though: The PS5 will sell well and the PS6 is definitely due within half a decade.

Not because it's good or it makes sense, but because it's playstation. With Sony's sucsess, a failure is extremely rare.
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Post by LeonardMan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:34 pm

Brazencoronet17 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:48 pm
LeonardMan wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:27 pm
Brazencoronet17 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:10 pm
-The PS5 will be a minimal upgrade from the PS4 Pro, and is being released too early.

Specs have not gone far enough to really make a true upgrade, so I would say the next generation sony and Microsoft consoles will be COMPLETELY POINTLESS and just an excuse to make more money.I
You have a good point. You can't push videogame graphics to be much more realistic than they already are today, so what need do consoles have nowadays to be any more powerful?

In fact, do we need ANY consoles AT ALL in this age? When a PC and a cell phone can play pretty much everything?
Dang, you're right. consoles are basically obsolete.

One thing I know for sure, though: The PS5 will sell well and the PS6 is definitely due within half a decade.

Not because it's good or it makes sense, but because it's playstation. With Sony's sucsess, a failure is extremely rare.
That's because it has nothing to do with the product itself. Once again I'm going to rant about the human species's primal instincts, and how just the social interaction in itself colors the entire society's likes and dislikes. Nobody gives a shit about the consoles themselves, the apes just want them as an excuse to connect and socialize with as many other apes as possible. Social perception is more powerful even than reality. If Sony and the Playstation name have a good social image, everything else doesn't matter, and it's ALL because of humanity's ancient survival instincts!
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Post by Royalguard » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:25 am

Its coming to a point where devs need to give up this stupid race for top tier graphics. Sure it might have been fine in earlier gaming gens when graphics still had a long way to grow, but now, lets face it, there is only so much visual information the human eyes and brains can even process, and graphics today can already reach fairly realistic looking levels with the current technology and software currently available if need be.

If anything, if consoles want to remain competitive, both to each other, and to alternatives like PC and mobile, they need to innovate how games are played. Nintendo has been far ahead in this regard, experimenting as far back as the Wiimote & accessories on Wii and dual screen and a stylus on DS, while the others only seem to be seriously focusing on gameplay innovation only more recently and need to catch up.
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Post by Brazencoronet17 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:41 pm

Motion blur and mouth capture animations need to die. They look super ugly and unrealistic.

Besides, I've seen some AAA games with AWFUL graphics that are trying to be good and realistic

But end up looking like ass
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Post by Mega Pokebattlerz » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:05 pm

And then there's Stadia:
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Post by Brazencoronet17 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:24 pm

Mega Pokebattlerz wrote:
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And then there's Stadia:
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